It surprises me how absolutely GIRLY most of these individuals are. They could NEVER be Butch,none of them have an ounce of Butchness in them, so maybe they think they'd be more Butch than us if they were a 'real man'. But all it is another form of cosmetics and cosmetic surgery for the insecure. Maybe they were victimized in their female bodies, minds or spirits, or they had a smack of androgyny and were smacked down with even that....
I've met these 20, 30 somethings and most are androgynous at best...could just as easily wear a skirt or makeup or lipstick as Butch or male drag. And most of these cuz they ARE so girly would probably end up dating gay boys too. Faghags.
The old timey FTM's were close to or Stone Butches, the most hardcore of the hardcore Butches, in the distant past, like 15-20 years ago, and they just couldn't 'make it' as women, like you said, their internalized misogyny, or continual discrimination because of their very masculine appearance as Butches that led to them getting beat up, discriminated against or unable to get work. So they transitioned and then quietly disappeared from the lesbian/gay communities. Most were into Femmes...but these days, there's an EXPECTATION that these ones have a RIGHT to be in women's/lesbian/dyke space, WHILE wanting to maintain so called 'maleness'...just confused young girls....in my book, not proud to be women, or not having the strength to REALLY oppose both sexism and lesbophobia.
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now this is just hateful and painful, im sorry being trans does not mean u reject feminity, maybe thats what u butch people do but certainly sint true for all trans people.its a gender spectrum and each person is different. some transmen have no problem in being feminine, while some go hard core masculine, some a bit of both.
ReplyDeletei think the most important thing is for us trans and butch people to understand each other and understand its not a competition.we are wired differently and getting a dialogue started is the best way to find out what up with the other.
wow for someone who is lesbian, why be homophobic, whats wrong with dating gay boys
It doesn't matter how someone looks to be transgendered. I know plenty of butch dykes who are girly and who would even suck a cock for the fun of it as it would please them. I know plenty of dykes who would even spread their legs for a man to get what they want. I even know plenty of dykes who would blow a guy to get what they want and you are gonna ut trans guys down? Honey, you need to get a life and not spend it online writing some blog about shit you have no clue about. Just because you think you are some big bad dyke does not mean all dykes are like you or think like you. It makes me sick to see some dyke in the corner of the club I go to sucking some guys cock and let me tell you it's not a trans guys either. She's busy blowing to get shit she wants and needs. We all know who they are in the club. They are sleaze! The other dykes know it, the trans guys know it and the gay guys know it. I guess shit like that makes you too look bad. I guess they are all like that. From what I have seen they are. I have been around for a long time and I see the same shit all the damn time....blowing and fucking for what they want.
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