Saturday, December 21, 2013
Amazon Strongwomen in the early 20th century...
http://listverse.com/2013/03/05/top-10-old-time-amazon-women/?utm_source=more&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=direct
Huge Crystal Ball that is a new form of solar generator
A great invention..but then we know Crystal Balls are magical and can focus the energy of the Sun and create immense heat.
http://inhabitat.com/rawlemons-new-betaray-solar-energy-generator-is-a-crystal-ball-that-harvests-light-from-the-sun-moon-and-clouds/
http://inhabitat.com/rawlemons-new-betaray-solar-energy-generator-is-a-crystal-ball-that-harvests-light-from-the-sun-moon-and-clouds/
Butch Lesbian women are the most visible Lesbians of all: quote from Ajna that speaks to my soul..and maybe yours too. Another fierce radical Femme ally
Ajna Starheart: "Butch
Lesbian women are the most visible lesbians of all and therefore the
most hated and targeted by the homophobic elements of the Patriarchy.
Horizontal aggression from less visible lesbians who prefer to pass
unseen is another cross Butch lesbians have to bear."
Wednesday, October 2, 2013
"ASSUMING BUTCH INTO EXTINCTION"
I feel VERY STRONGLY about this article/blog, so I am including the link to it, as for those of us who are Butch Dykes, we are being completely misread by others because of the trans phenomena, and so many nonfeminine bio females transitioning right and left. We ARE FEmale and Female proud, we are Dykes, we are WOMYN, and we won't be written out of bio female womonhood, we are DykeAmazons, and Butches, and we name Ourselves! And we won't bend over for any man, nor is our sexuality 'fluid' as in having sex with bio males!
-In Butch DykeAmazon Sisterhood,
-MasterAmazon
http://bigboobutch.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/assuming-butches-into-extinction/
-In Butch DykeAmazon Sisterhood,
-MasterAmazon
http://bigboobutch.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/assuming-butches-into-extinction/
Tuesday, August 20, 2013
"The Ordeal of Ron Gold"
http://dyneslines.blogspot.com/2009/12/ordeal-of-ronald-gold.html
On censorship of a gay man questioning the trans movement, interpretation and not kowtowing to their party line on Bilerico.
And my response:
On censorship of a gay man questioning the trans movement, interpretation and not kowtowing to their party line on Bilerico.
And my response:
There is no 'T' in Lesbian
THIS is a fantastic article for us, well researched, addressing MANY of the issues us Lesbians are going through now, and in relation to trans movement cooptation of our issues and needs, while silencing Lesbians.
http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/there-is-no-t-in-lesbian/
http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/there-is-no-t-in-lesbian/
My personal Vision of Goddess and WHY I stay on this Path as a DykeAmazon Warrior/Witch/Priestess/Goddess Worshipper with every fiber of my DykeAmazon Being
Wonderful article that inspired me to write the piece below about my dream, which has stayed my Vision...and WHY we MUST continue the work ahead.
"There is a rage, a fearlessness.
Men must realize, on some level, that they are creating their own opposition, that they are raising an army of Amazons that will come back for what’s ours."-When Women Were Warriors
http://wwomenwwarriors.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/she-is-a-counter-patriarchy-machine/
MasterAmazon-I had a dream and vision about this in the '80's, the most radical time of the Feminist/Lesbian and Womyn's Spirituality movements. I don't talk often of it, but your words here, in this article speak to that. When womyn FINALLY wake up, and realize the Warriors they are, the Witches, the Shamans, the Powerful spiritual, psychic and physical beings we can be, especially TOGETHER in Sisterhood, and gathering together, like Michfest, and other womyn's Festivals and Circles, and the MAGIC we can do to STOP the patriarchy combining our gynergy together, it is absolutely paradigm shifting and life changing. We need to ripple that out into EVERY aspect of our lives and never stop connecting with one another, affirming one another in our mutual Powers and strengths COLLECTIVELY.
That dream consisted of being taken above the Planet by Goddess and witnessing the holes in the world, where poverty and violence were occurring the worst, Africa, somewhere's near Europe, several holes that could ONLY be filled by bringing back Female Power and Female Energy, by Goddess, by womyn in their Power doing the Rebalancing, Before our lovely Planet Mother Earth is destroyed for good by these pricks!
It was an immensely POWERFUL dream, one of those Life Changing dreams, and it explained to me WHY I'm doing the work I'm doing(no not for pay) WHY I continue to circle with womyn, why I continue to be a DykeAmazon, why I continue to share Amazon mysteries, and circle with womyn, and believe so strongly about rebalancing with our Female energies, and connection with Goddess. Why every womon alive needs to shed the shame, the veils, the chains and every other attachment to male power that binds her, including male dominated religion which owns her heart, her soul and her body, keeping her chained to men and male rule on the most intimate levels. And so much more, why we are ALL doing the work we are doing! Goddess Awaken, Goddess Arise in the Hearts of ALL WOMYN, and ALL WOMYN RISE NOW!!!!
-In Sisterhood,
-M.Amazon
"There is a rage, a fearlessness.
Men must realize, on some level, that they are creating their own opposition, that they are raising an army of Amazons that will come back for what’s ours."-When Women Were Warriors
http://wwomenwwarriors.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/she-is-a-counter-patriarchy-machine/
MasterAmazon-I had a dream and vision about this in the '80's, the most radical time of the Feminist/Lesbian and Womyn's Spirituality movements. I don't talk often of it, but your words here, in this article speak to that. When womyn FINALLY wake up, and realize the Warriors they are, the Witches, the Shamans, the Powerful spiritual, psychic and physical beings we can be, especially TOGETHER in Sisterhood, and gathering together, like Michfest, and other womyn's Festivals and Circles, and the MAGIC we can do to STOP the patriarchy combining our gynergy together, it is absolutely paradigm shifting and life changing. We need to ripple that out into EVERY aspect of our lives and never stop connecting with one another, affirming one another in our mutual Powers and strengths COLLECTIVELY.
That dream consisted of being taken above the Planet by Goddess and witnessing the holes in the world, where poverty and violence were occurring the worst, Africa, somewhere's near Europe, several holes that could ONLY be filled by bringing back Female Power and Female Energy, by Goddess, by womyn in their Power doing the Rebalancing, Before our lovely Planet Mother Earth is destroyed for good by these pricks!
It was an immensely POWERFUL dream, one of those Life Changing dreams, and it explained to me WHY I'm doing the work I'm doing(no not for pay) WHY I continue to circle with womyn, why I continue to be a DykeAmazon, why I continue to share Amazon mysteries, and circle with womyn, and believe so strongly about rebalancing with our Female energies, and connection with Goddess. Why every womon alive needs to shed the shame, the veils, the chains and every other attachment to male power that binds her, including male dominated religion which owns her heart, her soul and her body, keeping her chained to men and male rule on the most intimate levels. And so much more, why we are ALL doing the work we are doing! Goddess Awaken, Goddess Arise in the Hearts of ALL WOMYN, and ALL WOMYN RISE NOW!!!!
-In Sisterhood,
-M.Amazon
Monday, August 19, 2013
"Forbidden Discourse: The Silencing of Feminist Criticism of 'Gender' "
Another very important article on silencing feminists from discussing 'gender' issues and how females are discriminated against around sex by males, and that it takes away from females organizing together against this struggle for the smokescreen of 'gender', 'gender rights' and'gender studies' by bio males who decide to transition(MTF's) especially. And that as they fight for 'gender rights' it is nonfeminist for many of us considering they are upholding the same old tired gender roles that some are transitioning into or away from....-M.A.
http://www.pandagon.net/2013/08/forbidden-discourse-the-silencing-of-feminist-criticism-of-gender/
http://www.pandagon.net/2013/08/forbidden-discourse-the-silencing-of-feminist-criticism-of-gender/
Sunday, August 18, 2013
This is about my response to 'Socialized Trans', Detransitioning, sexism, and oppression of Butch and other Lesbians in response to the blog article 'Socialized Trans' and GenderTherapist's critique of the article
http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/
My latest post, in response to 'gendertherapist'. And I'll cite the articles in just a moment. -M.A.
"As gender specialists, we need to be working to make the world safe
for everyone’s gender. If a person doesn’t feel they fit into the box
that women are permitted to live in, in the binary, it is wrong to
assume they must be male. They might be but not necessarily. This is why
the binary is problematic. As we know, most gender non conforming kids
grow up to be cisgender."-gendertherapist
I no longer buy the
'gender line'. One is born male or female (with the very rare exception
of interssex), it is a biological FACT, then raised according to their
genitals in systems that crush females, and limit ANY Female expression
outside of patriarchal Sex Role Stereotyping. It also limits bio male
children from expressing more tender feelings and wanting to play with
what have been designated 'girl only toys/clothes'. It crushes little
boys too that don't want to play in competitive sports, fight, and have
more artistic and tender sensitivities. Both are mercilessly teased by
peers and admonished by parents for not 'fitting in'. I posit it is the
SYSTEM that is the problem for being so intolerant, not the kids that
need to be changed.
Instead of letting kids play expansive
dress up, toy playing games, and all kinds of expansive roles and
opportunities, they are labeled as gender dysfunctional or a 'trans kid'
or some such thing...believe me, I KNOW, having never fit into
heterosexual female roles almost my entire life!
I'm just glad no
therapist I EVER went to recommended to my parents that I be on hormone
blockers, then set for opposite sex hormones in my teenage years.
Sexism is RAMPANT. It is deep, it is pervasive. Without addressing deep
sexism on EVERY level, and along with that Lesbo/Homophobia and fear of
the kid growing up homosexual(like a hardcore tomboy kid like myself
refusing straitjacketed female roles and much preferring boys' toys and
clothes), more and more parents will succumb to the siren song of
hormone blockers and hormones for their kids and teens.
There
are more than ever young teen, 20 and 30 somethings and some older females now transitioning or genderqueering who
feel they don't fit into the box girls/women are expected to 'fit into';
marriage, babymaking, certain professions and displaying themselves in a
feminine revealing and sexualized manner. That is EXACTLY how I felt,
and instead of being accepted by parents, schools, peers, I was thrown
into the-rapy, and shamed by the above for desiring boys' toys,
rejecting dolls, dresses, skirts, high heels, makeup, and playing girly
games. I did NOT want a penis..I wanted to be treated equal. I told them
all I 'wanted to be a boy' because I wanted to play all the boys'
games, tag, exploring, riding my bike, being included in the boys' clubs
and all the fun adventures, baseball, ice hockey and eventually getting
into the martial arts. Even there, I wanted to do full contact karate in tournaments
and because I was female I was NOT permitted to do so.
It had
NOTHING to do with wanting a penis. It had to do with being treated as a
societal EQUAL and allowed to do the activities I found fun and
interesting and I wanted NOTHING to do with domestic training which girls are
EXPECTED to do and most of their games and activities are centered around.
By seeing barriers everywhere as a bio
Female, and especially if one has resisted femininity and
feminization(tomboy, Butch, nonfeminine) so many will respond with
wanting to 'pass' as more male to get a sense of power in this world
that femaleness does not give, unless it's the reflected mirrored power
of sexualized female like movie stars, fashion divas and singers, no real power in the end, because sexualized ends
up often being EXPLOITED Female, and the better jobs, pay, esteem that
men get without being sexualized. Men are taken far
more seriously in ANY profession than women are and most often in the supervisory roles. This is even more true the higher up to the top of an organization one goes. Boy children get way more
attention than girl children do.
Until ALL these causes are addressed
and the patriarchal system of male powerover changed at its roots, it
never questions the underlying assumptions of the system, and transition
is then mostly a coping mechanism for sheer survival for NOT conforming
to proscribed sex roles. I want to see the NEED for transition
ELIMINATED.
When we had STRONG Lesbian communities that
Questioned all these things, Butches had REAL PRIDE in their POWERFUL
FEMALE BEINGS. We saw ourselves as the fierce Amazon Warriors that were
going to make some real change, and create our own alternative
societies, institutions, spaces, and make inroads into male trades as in
the Tradeswomen movement, largely founded by Butch Dykes...but as
Feminism and Lesbian Feminism as IT'S OWN movement faded, and blended
into the queerified LGBT movement, Butches began questioning their
femaleness, more and more and more began to transition and we lost all
those strong Lesbian and Female networks and PRIDE.
For many
of us 'Cis' is a hate word. As a Bio Female Butch DykeAmazon, I have
ALWAYS resisted hetero sex roles or 'female gender roles', ALWAYS and in
ALL WAYS...but I am not male, NOR DO I WANT TO BE or to transition. I
am NOT cis, I am bio female and a womon born womon. Cis is a term the
trans have invented, it is NOT a term many of us Female Proud Butches,
Dykes, or born females have chosen for ourselves. We NAME ourselves, and
for many of us, no matter what the trans, gender, genderqueer movements
think, we are Women born women, bio female from birth, raised as girls
in a society oppressive to girls and women, and we go through puberty as
girls (whether sex role conforming or not)facing menstruation and our
bodies naturally changing, the possibility and fear of impregnation, and
all the sexism inherent in that and in our lives as continuous Females.
There is a huge difference between us and those who claim womanhood
after being born and living as male for any period of time. Even with the heartache some of not 'fitting in' they still have had male privileges NO born female has EVER had.
So while you understand the sexist
society we live in 'gendertherapist', you firmly have your foot already in the 'gender
camp' and are making a living at it!
Continue to question is
what I say, in a society that limits our choices severely, through
policies, religion, convention, books, magazines, movies, media,
schools, medicine including psychology and psychiatry, everything at
it's base is in the heart and milieu of the patriarchy. NOTHING is separate
from it. Those who don't conform are punished, sometimes even WITHIN
their own communities and the immense pressure now for any tomboyish
girl or butchy young womon to transition to male, genderqueer, take
hormones, wear breast flattening vests to hide their breasts, and the
expose you did on female athletes, and the PEER PRESSURE by others once
she has come into the community to go down those roads. It is rampant in
San Francisco now, which is why I hardly go over there anymore..as a
Butch, it hurts me to my CORE to know strong Butches I used to know, and
even young ones, SUCCUMBING to the immense pressure by peers to go down
the road of breast flattening, being called by male pronouns, take
hormones, and then eventually schedule themselves for breast removal
surgeries.....
I know they are often lost, when it starts in
the brain: the whole, 'you look and act like a man, so you must BE ONE.'
that Butches have been told ad infinitum for DECADES if not centuries
and millenia, because the world CANNOT Handle fully empowered
nonfeminine conforming, Butch, Amazon, independent masculine appearing
women who stand their ground, and effeminate men who differ from the macho norm. Question THE SYSTEM.
-FeistyAmazon
http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/#more-188
My latest post, in response to 'gendertherapist'. And I'll cite the articles in just a moment. -M.A.
I no longer buy the 'gender line'. One is born male or female (with the very rare exception of interssex), it is a biological FACT, then raised according to their genitals in systems that crush females, and limit ANY Female expression outside of patriarchal Sex Role Stereotyping. It also limits bio male children from expressing more tender feelings and wanting to play with what have been designated 'girl only toys/clothes'. It crushes little boys too that don't want to play in competitive sports, fight, and have more artistic and tender sensitivities. Both are mercilessly teased by peers and admonished by parents for not 'fitting in'. I posit it is the SYSTEM that is the problem for being so intolerant, not the kids that need to be changed.
Instead of letting kids play expansive dress up, toy playing games, and all kinds of expansive roles and opportunities, they are labeled as gender dysfunctional or a 'trans kid' or some such thing...believe me, I KNOW, having never fit into heterosexual female roles almost my entire life!
I'm just glad no therapist I EVER went to recommended to my parents that I be on hormone blockers, then set for opposite sex hormones in my teenage years.
Sexism is RAMPANT. It is deep, it is pervasive. Without addressing deep sexism on EVERY level, and along with that Lesbo/Homophobia and fear of the kid growing up homosexual(like a hardcore tomboy kid like myself refusing straitjacketed female roles and much preferring boys' toys and clothes), more and more parents will succumb to the siren song of hormone blockers and hormones for their kids and teens.
There are more than ever young teen, 20 and 30 somethings and some older females now transitioning or genderqueering who feel they don't fit into the box girls/women are expected to 'fit into'; marriage, babymaking, certain professions and displaying themselves in a feminine revealing and sexualized manner. That is EXACTLY how I felt, and instead of being accepted by parents, schools, peers, I was thrown into the-rapy, and shamed by the above for desiring boys' toys, rejecting dolls, dresses, skirts, high heels, makeup, and playing girly games. I did NOT want a penis..I wanted to be treated equal. I told them all I 'wanted to be a boy' because I wanted to play all the boys' games, tag, exploring, riding my bike, being included in the boys' clubs and all the fun adventures, baseball, ice hockey and eventually getting into the martial arts. Even there, I wanted to do full contact karate in tournaments and because I was female I was NOT permitted to do so.
It had NOTHING to do with wanting a penis. It had to do with being treated as a societal EQUAL and allowed to do the activities I found fun and interesting and I wanted NOTHING to do with domestic training which girls are EXPECTED to do and most of their games and activities are centered around.
By seeing barriers everywhere as a bio Female, and especially if one has resisted femininity and feminization(tomboy, Butch, nonfeminine) so many will respond with wanting to 'pass' as more male to get a sense of power in this world that femaleness does not give, unless it's the reflected mirrored power of sexualized female like movie stars, fashion divas and singers, no real power in the end, because sexualized ends up often being EXPLOITED Female, and the better jobs, pay, esteem that men get without being sexualized. Men are taken far more seriously in ANY profession than women are and most often in the supervisory roles. This is even more true the higher up to the top of an organization one goes. Boy children get way more attention than girl children do.
Until ALL these causes are addressed and the patriarchal system of male powerover changed at its roots, it never questions the underlying assumptions of the system, and transition is then mostly a coping mechanism for sheer survival for NOT conforming to proscribed sex roles. I want to see the NEED for transition ELIMINATED.
When we had STRONG Lesbian communities that Questioned all these things, Butches had REAL PRIDE in their POWERFUL FEMALE BEINGS. We saw ourselves as the fierce Amazon Warriors that were going to make some real change, and create our own alternative societies, institutions, spaces, and make inroads into male trades as in the Tradeswomen movement, largely founded by Butch Dykes...but as Feminism and Lesbian Feminism as IT'S OWN movement faded, and blended into the queerified LGBT movement, Butches began questioning their femaleness, more and more and more began to transition and we lost all those strong Lesbian and Female networks and PRIDE.
For many of us 'Cis' is a hate word. As a Bio Female Butch DykeAmazon, I have ALWAYS resisted hetero sex roles or 'female gender roles', ALWAYS and in ALL WAYS...but I am not male, NOR DO I WANT TO BE or to transition. I am NOT cis, I am bio female and a womon born womon. Cis is a term the trans have invented, it is NOT a term many of us Female Proud Butches, Dykes, or born females have chosen for ourselves. We NAME ourselves, and for many of us, no matter what the trans, gender, genderqueer movements think, we are Women born women, bio female from birth, raised as girls in a society oppressive to girls and women, and we go through puberty as girls (whether sex role conforming or not)facing menstruation and our bodies naturally changing, the possibility and fear of impregnation, and all the sexism inherent in that and in our lives as continuous Females. There is a huge difference between us and those who claim womanhood after being born and living as male for any period of time. Even with the heartache some of not 'fitting in' they still have had male privileges NO born female has EVER had.
So while you understand the sexist society we live in 'gendertherapist', you firmly have your foot already in the 'gender camp' and are making a living at it!
Continue to question is what I say, in a society that limits our choices severely, through policies, religion, convention, books, magazines, movies, media, schools, medicine including psychology and psychiatry, everything at it's base is in the heart and milieu of the patriarchy. NOTHING is separate from it. Those who don't conform are punished, sometimes even WITHIN their own communities and the immense pressure now for any tomboyish girl or butchy young womon to transition to male, genderqueer, take hormones, wear breast flattening vests to hide their breasts, and the expose you did on female athletes, and the PEER PRESSURE by others once she has come into the community to go down those roads. It is rampant in San Francisco now, which is why I hardly go over there anymore..as a Butch, it hurts me to my CORE to know strong Butches I used to know, and even young ones, SUCCUMBING to the immense pressure by peers to go down the road of breast flattening, being called by male pronouns, take hormones, and then eventually schedule themselves for breast removal surgeries.....
I know they are often lost, when it starts in the brain: the whole, 'you look and act like a man, so you must BE ONE.' that Butches have been told ad infinitum for DECADES if not centuries and millenia, because the world CANNOT Handle fully empowered nonfeminine conforming, Butch, Amazon, independent masculine appearing women who stand their ground, and effeminate men who differ from the macho norm. Question THE SYSTEM.
-FeistyAmazon
Thursday, August 15, 2013
'Socialized trans' It's about young Butches being pressured to identify as Trans, genderqueer, FTM from all the peer pressure in queer society, especially the trans movement, but also from the straight world
Felt this is an important article, so am including the website address for you to put on your webbrowser.
http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/
Here's the whole article below, with her permission and all. Also some good commentaries in response.
One way to describe part of my experience is to say that I was socialized “trans”. That is, people assumed I was trans and treated me how they thought a trans person ought to be treated regardless of how I identified myself at the time. This treatment over time began to effect how I saw myself, helped to instill a trans male identity and encouraged me to transition. I think this is a phenomena that effects many females who are butch, “masculine” or otherwise don’t fit conventional “femininity”.
When I say that females are socialized “trans”, I mean that they’re treated as though their qualities, behaviors, mannerisms, appearances, and so forth are taken as indicators that they’re trans and so they get male pronouns, get asked when they’re going to transition, complimented on how well they pass, etc.
In my own circumstances, I would say being socialized “trans” included finding that my choice of name, clothing, physical features, interests, mannerisms and overall qualities were judged male by many people. These people decided that these qualities meant I was a boy with a female body rather than a girl with characteristics usually associated with boys and so it was therefore appropriate to use male pronouns without consulting me about my preferences. People used male pronouns to refer to me not only because they thought I preferred them but also because they seemed more comfortable using them to describe me. I was also told what a cute boy I made many times. On my own, I was considering that I could be trans but having many other people label me as such certainly reinforced that possibility and made it seem more likely.
Crucially, this socialization also consisted of a lot of positive reinforcement. That is, when people decided I was trans and treated me accordingly they were often at the same time trying to show respect or be friendly. I didn’t receive the same sort of treatment as a butch dyke. When people “accepted” me as a trans dude they also integrated me into their social scene. People listened to me when I talked about being trans, gave me an opportunity to hold forth on my life. There’s this dynamic that can arise between trans people and trans allies where trans people get support and attention from allies and allies gain political/socially progressive cred for being friendly and cool with someone society thinks is a freak. Such a relationship typically contains some degree of objectification of the trans person, ranging from being slightly tinted by it to being totally pervaded.
I don’t believe my experience of being socialized “trans” is totally unique. I think there are different degrees of it and it effects people differently. Some people just get annoyed when they’re presumed trans because they don’t see themselves that way. Other people can start to internalize it. This does not make the latter group weak, only human. People are very social creatures, very open to the influence of others. If you keep encountering people who make the same judgments about you over and over again, you may very well begin to think there’s some truth to them. Much of our sense of self is influenced and reinforced by other’s perceptions.
This “trans” socialization consists of several components. One is deciding that certain actions, appearances, practices etc are signs that a person is trans/male rather than a woman, female, and/or butch. This is based off the assumptions that any perceived “masculinity” is maleness and that stepping outside the female role and temperament makes one not a female. This belief that being/acting a certain way puts one outside “woman” or “female” can be an unconscious policing of the female category, a way to ensure that its boundaries are maintained. These judgments and assumptions are also linked to the belief that “man are like this, women are like that” and that these differences are fixed and innate and due to biology, not culture. Therefore if a female is “like a male” then they must be biologically male in some sense because biology is what makes someone “like a male” or “like a female”. There is constant propaganda that women and men are different and that these differences are rooted in the body and there’s not too much out there challenging these beliefs with the same force of those promoting them.
Another part is treating the presumed trans man’s behavior and self expression as more acceptable because they’re trans/male. This “masculinity” or whatever isn’t supposed to be present in a female body but being trans explains and makes it acceptable. What was unsightly, confusing or unnatural before is now something this person can feel entitled to. Males are still generally treated better than females and male “masculinity” is certainly better respected than female “masculinity”. I’ve found that people will treat me more like a human when I’m seen as a “normal” male instead of a female genderfreak. When I pass I don’t get stared at, people don’t get confused or disturbed and not know how to handle me and I don’t need to be as anxious about people fucking with me. Being seen as male can grant females more freedom to express themselves, ease some social burdens. We should not be surprised to find some females taking on trans male identities because of this.
Coming to see oneself as male can make regularly passing as such a more pleasant experience. If a female passes as a man and decides that they are one then every time they pass they’re being affirmed as what they are. If she passes as male but sees herself as a female/woman, then what she is is being rendered invisible and the message is conveyed that women like her are socially unthinkable. This culture doesn’t want to admit that women with “male traits” exist because it doesn’t want them to exist.
The many social benefits conferred on a female passing as male can lead them to take the maleness people read in them and make it a part of their own understanding of self. When people who know this person is female-bodied also read them as male, trans male in this instance, this reinforces the idea that because their actions, looks and so forth can pass for male, then they are male and this maleness is desirable. The outside world tells them that they pass for male, their close associates tell them their behavior makes them trans male and nowhere is femaleness being reinforced. Instead they’re being told again and again that they’re not female and will often find little to no representations of females who resemble them. In fact they might hear, as I did, about a lot of females who used to identify as dykes and/or butch but now identify as trans and maybe transitioned. In my own case, many of the females I did come across were not like me or what I wanted to be and many of the female-bodied folk who were like me were trans-identified or became so.
In this society at this particular moment, many women/females who don’t fit into conventional “femininity” are going to spend some time seeing themselves as trans/male or genderqueer before accepting themselves as women/females. A young female today who’s “masculine” enough to pass as male is likely to be presumed trans or genderqueer at some point because trans and genderqueer are becoming popular models for explaining why some people don’t match the prescribed qualities of their sex. A lot of unconventional females who’ve run up against the limitations of the female role in this society often spend some time dissociating from being female before they’re able to accept being so. Being socialized “trans” can extend this dissociation and encourage it. It can inhibit self-acceptance and feed self-hatred. In this context, taking hormones and getting surgery can be self-destructive.
Being trans can be a phase. We need social space to accommodate females who go through this phase and help them come out the other side because often, for this population at least, being trans is about self-hatred, internalized misogyny and/or homophobia and facing and working through that bullshit sucks. Realizing that you created an identity to fit into society because you learned that what you are is unacceptable can be really painful, overwhelmingly so, and there is virtually no resources for people going through this.
Radical feminists are some of the only people who acknowledge and provide support on issues like internalized sexism leading a person to transition. I don’t agree with everything they say, in fact I disagree with most of them pretty frequently, but I end up going to Rad Fem sites a lot because they are some of the only people talking about issues that have deeply effected me and I find radical feminist perspectives on gender pretty compelling after my own struggles with it. And people wonder why so many ex-FtMs end up radical feminists. Could it be that sometimes they have a point and they’re the only ones willing to say it? Plenty of people will say similar shit privately but not openly because they’re afraid of how they’ll be judged. The trans community contributes to a backlash against it when it fails to acknowledge that there are problems, that not every person who comes out as trans or transitioning is really finding themselves.
While some trans people go to great lengths to show that they’re transitioning to make peace with their bodies, not to fit into gender roles and stereotypes, many other trans people and much of the more widespread conceptions of transsexuality are bound up with traditional ideas of gender. There is a reactionary current within the web of ideas and practices that make up the social phenomena of transsexuality and it can fuck people up. Transsexuality isn’t one thing. People don’t call themselves trans or transition for the same reasons. I’m inclined to see people shaped by their social circumstances, so I’m also inclined to questions how those circumstances effect people’s identities and behaviors. I don’t think trans people are any more or less shaped by their culture than any other groups of people, nor do I doubt that most trans people are just trying to live as authentically as they can. Still, I see how people can be influenced to take on a trans identity in response to how gender operates in this culture, either to conform to it or consciously “subvert” it (The same person can do both, as I did) and I find both tendencies questionable and worthy of examining critically. It’s worth asking if many people could be transitioning for social reasons rather than innate drives. Overall, I think this phenomena of females being socialized “trans” or denying their femaleness for a time is a product of the overall society we live in but the trans community is sometimes complicit with this and when any community colludes with sexism and misogyny it deserves to face criticism.
Many queer and trans people say they think gender is a social construct but I don’t feel like they always acknowledge the full implications. It doesn’t just mean that gender norms are made up and we can defy them or make up our own genders. It means that we are influenced by these norms even if we rebel against them. If gender is socially generated then a person’s sense of gender can be influenced by cultural trends and as culture changes, new norms and rules can arise. Something formally taboo can become a standard people are measured against and I see this happening with trans identities. Trans can be another definition forced onto people, another idea through which a person’s being and behavior can be interpreted and judged. Just as there can be pressure for a male to be a “manly man” or a female to be “girly”, there can be pressure to call oneself trans or transition if one’s actions are considered “inappropriate” or strange for one’s sex. This is not only a possibility, it is a reality. I have been socialized “trans” and I know I’m not alone.
If trans dudes and butch, “masculine” and otherwise unconventional females are going to coexist we need to talk about this shit. If trans people are serious about supporting all people who get fucked over by gender then this issue needs to be addressed. The trans community needs to acknowledge that social forces like sexism can lead people to transition and that for some people being trans is a phase, perhaps a harmful one. I’m tired of seeing any mention of social pressures to transition dismissed as transphobic. Not all trans people are guilty of this. I’ve met a few trans folks who straight up said that they’re not sure if they’d have transitioned if society was different. Recently too, I looked up some old discussions I first read years ago on an FtM online community about whether transitioning was becoming a trend, whether it was cooler to be a FtM than a butch female, and concern that many people were rushing into transition or transitioning for the wrong reasons. I recall reading similar conversations on other sites as well. Today though, it seems that, in some communities at least, these conversations have become less acceptable and un-PC.
Silence about these issues in the trans community is not the only problem though or even the main one. It’s this whole genderfucked culture and the people who buy into it, the vast majority of whom are not trans. Most of the people who assumed I was trans were not trans themselves, many had not knowingly met a trans person before. Many non-trans folks who thought I was trans had very narrow ideas of what being trans was and only supported those trans identities that fell in line with their own assumptions of gender. When I was a teenager, people would tell me how they though my ex and his boyfriend, who was also FtM, weren’t really trans because they were both too feminine and “unmanly”. These people, who were mostly gay or bi, couldn’t understand trans fags at all. They told me their doubts because to them I was a “real” trans guy who could substantiate their judgments. At the time though, I was far from sure that I was actually trans. These folks assumed I was “really trans” because I was “masculine” and easily passed but questioned these two trans dudes because they didn’t conform to their ideas of what men were. This “trans” socialization then is often not so much about promoting any and all trans identities as using transsexuality to reinforce already established standards of gender. The core problem is that we’re living in a patriarchy and the ultimate task is to challenge it and the sex/gender order than sustains it. Quite a daunting task indeed and one I’m still figuring out how to practically advance.
In the meantime, there needs to be more support and resources for females who don’t fit gender norms. More specifically, there need to be spaces created for women who’ve denied their femaleness, transitioned due to internalized misogyny, called themselves trans, and/or lived as men before they found a way to accept themselves as women/females. There seem to be quite a lot of us out there but we’re nowhere near as organized as other communities. There isn’t really a community of us yet but I feel the need to help create one.
http://crashchaoscats.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/socialized-trans/
Here's the whole article below, with her permission and all. Also some good commentaries in response.
reflectin' & dissectin', thoughts on "detransitioning"
Socialized “Trans”
by crashchaoscats
[Note: this essay draws largely from my own experience and so only covers the experience of female-bodied people, primarily those who are butch or have “masculine” attributes. I believe that females who aren’t butch or “masculine” can also be socialized “trans” but I don’t know enough to talk about that. Perhaps if others find this concept helpful, they could add what they’ve learned from their own experiences to help expand it.]One way to describe part of my experience is to say that I was socialized “trans”. That is, people assumed I was trans and treated me how they thought a trans person ought to be treated regardless of how I identified myself at the time. This treatment over time began to effect how I saw myself, helped to instill a trans male identity and encouraged me to transition. I think this is a phenomena that effects many females who are butch, “masculine” or otherwise don’t fit conventional “femininity”.
When I say that females are socialized “trans”, I mean that they’re treated as though their qualities, behaviors, mannerisms, appearances, and so forth are taken as indicators that they’re trans and so they get male pronouns, get asked when they’re going to transition, complimented on how well they pass, etc.
In my own circumstances, I would say being socialized “trans” included finding that my choice of name, clothing, physical features, interests, mannerisms and overall qualities were judged male by many people. These people decided that these qualities meant I was a boy with a female body rather than a girl with characteristics usually associated with boys and so it was therefore appropriate to use male pronouns without consulting me about my preferences. People used male pronouns to refer to me not only because they thought I preferred them but also because they seemed more comfortable using them to describe me. I was also told what a cute boy I made many times. On my own, I was considering that I could be trans but having many other people label me as such certainly reinforced that possibility and made it seem more likely.
Crucially, this socialization also consisted of a lot of positive reinforcement. That is, when people decided I was trans and treated me accordingly they were often at the same time trying to show respect or be friendly. I didn’t receive the same sort of treatment as a butch dyke. When people “accepted” me as a trans dude they also integrated me into their social scene. People listened to me when I talked about being trans, gave me an opportunity to hold forth on my life. There’s this dynamic that can arise between trans people and trans allies where trans people get support and attention from allies and allies gain political/socially progressive cred for being friendly and cool with someone society thinks is a freak. Such a relationship typically contains some degree of objectification of the trans person, ranging from being slightly tinted by it to being totally pervaded.
I don’t believe my experience of being socialized “trans” is totally unique. I think there are different degrees of it and it effects people differently. Some people just get annoyed when they’re presumed trans because they don’t see themselves that way. Other people can start to internalize it. This does not make the latter group weak, only human. People are very social creatures, very open to the influence of others. If you keep encountering people who make the same judgments about you over and over again, you may very well begin to think there’s some truth to them. Much of our sense of self is influenced and reinforced by other’s perceptions.
This “trans” socialization consists of several components. One is deciding that certain actions, appearances, practices etc are signs that a person is trans/male rather than a woman, female, and/or butch. This is based off the assumptions that any perceived “masculinity” is maleness and that stepping outside the female role and temperament makes one not a female. This belief that being/acting a certain way puts one outside “woman” or “female” can be an unconscious policing of the female category, a way to ensure that its boundaries are maintained. These judgments and assumptions are also linked to the belief that “man are like this, women are like that” and that these differences are fixed and innate and due to biology, not culture. Therefore if a female is “like a male” then they must be biologically male in some sense because biology is what makes someone “like a male” or “like a female”. There is constant propaganda that women and men are different and that these differences are rooted in the body and there’s not too much out there challenging these beliefs with the same force of those promoting them.
Another part is treating the presumed trans man’s behavior and self expression as more acceptable because they’re trans/male. This “masculinity” or whatever isn’t supposed to be present in a female body but being trans explains and makes it acceptable. What was unsightly, confusing or unnatural before is now something this person can feel entitled to. Males are still generally treated better than females and male “masculinity” is certainly better respected than female “masculinity”. I’ve found that people will treat me more like a human when I’m seen as a “normal” male instead of a female genderfreak. When I pass I don’t get stared at, people don’t get confused or disturbed and not know how to handle me and I don’t need to be as anxious about people fucking with me. Being seen as male can grant females more freedom to express themselves, ease some social burdens. We should not be surprised to find some females taking on trans male identities because of this.
Coming to see oneself as male can make regularly passing as such a more pleasant experience. If a female passes as a man and decides that they are one then every time they pass they’re being affirmed as what they are. If she passes as male but sees herself as a female/woman, then what she is is being rendered invisible and the message is conveyed that women like her are socially unthinkable. This culture doesn’t want to admit that women with “male traits” exist because it doesn’t want them to exist.
The many social benefits conferred on a female passing as male can lead them to take the maleness people read in them and make it a part of their own understanding of self. When people who know this person is female-bodied also read them as male, trans male in this instance, this reinforces the idea that because their actions, looks and so forth can pass for male, then they are male and this maleness is desirable. The outside world tells them that they pass for male, their close associates tell them their behavior makes them trans male and nowhere is femaleness being reinforced. Instead they’re being told again and again that they’re not female and will often find little to no representations of females who resemble them. In fact they might hear, as I did, about a lot of females who used to identify as dykes and/or butch but now identify as trans and maybe transitioned. In my own case, many of the females I did come across were not like me or what I wanted to be and many of the female-bodied folk who were like me were trans-identified or became so.
In this society at this particular moment, many women/females who don’t fit into conventional “femininity” are going to spend some time seeing themselves as trans/male or genderqueer before accepting themselves as women/females. A young female today who’s “masculine” enough to pass as male is likely to be presumed trans or genderqueer at some point because trans and genderqueer are becoming popular models for explaining why some people don’t match the prescribed qualities of their sex. A lot of unconventional females who’ve run up against the limitations of the female role in this society often spend some time dissociating from being female before they’re able to accept being so. Being socialized “trans” can extend this dissociation and encourage it. It can inhibit self-acceptance and feed self-hatred. In this context, taking hormones and getting surgery can be self-destructive.
Being trans can be a phase. We need social space to accommodate females who go through this phase and help them come out the other side because often, for this population at least, being trans is about self-hatred, internalized misogyny and/or homophobia and facing and working through that bullshit sucks. Realizing that you created an identity to fit into society because you learned that what you are is unacceptable can be really painful, overwhelmingly so, and there is virtually no resources for people going through this.
Radical feminists are some of the only people who acknowledge and provide support on issues like internalized sexism leading a person to transition. I don’t agree with everything they say, in fact I disagree with most of them pretty frequently, but I end up going to Rad Fem sites a lot because they are some of the only people talking about issues that have deeply effected me and I find radical feminist perspectives on gender pretty compelling after my own struggles with it. And people wonder why so many ex-FtMs end up radical feminists. Could it be that sometimes they have a point and they’re the only ones willing to say it? Plenty of people will say similar shit privately but not openly because they’re afraid of how they’ll be judged. The trans community contributes to a backlash against it when it fails to acknowledge that there are problems, that not every person who comes out as trans or transitioning is really finding themselves.
While some trans people go to great lengths to show that they’re transitioning to make peace with their bodies, not to fit into gender roles and stereotypes, many other trans people and much of the more widespread conceptions of transsexuality are bound up with traditional ideas of gender. There is a reactionary current within the web of ideas and practices that make up the social phenomena of transsexuality and it can fuck people up. Transsexuality isn’t one thing. People don’t call themselves trans or transition for the same reasons. I’m inclined to see people shaped by their social circumstances, so I’m also inclined to questions how those circumstances effect people’s identities and behaviors. I don’t think trans people are any more or less shaped by their culture than any other groups of people, nor do I doubt that most trans people are just trying to live as authentically as they can. Still, I see how people can be influenced to take on a trans identity in response to how gender operates in this culture, either to conform to it or consciously “subvert” it (The same person can do both, as I did) and I find both tendencies questionable and worthy of examining critically. It’s worth asking if many people could be transitioning for social reasons rather than innate drives. Overall, I think this phenomena of females being socialized “trans” or denying their femaleness for a time is a product of the overall society we live in but the trans community is sometimes complicit with this and when any community colludes with sexism and misogyny it deserves to face criticism.
Many queer and trans people say they think gender is a social construct but I don’t feel like they always acknowledge the full implications. It doesn’t just mean that gender norms are made up and we can defy them or make up our own genders. It means that we are influenced by these norms even if we rebel against them. If gender is socially generated then a person’s sense of gender can be influenced by cultural trends and as culture changes, new norms and rules can arise. Something formally taboo can become a standard people are measured against and I see this happening with trans identities. Trans can be another definition forced onto people, another idea through which a person’s being and behavior can be interpreted and judged. Just as there can be pressure for a male to be a “manly man” or a female to be “girly”, there can be pressure to call oneself trans or transition if one’s actions are considered “inappropriate” or strange for one’s sex. This is not only a possibility, it is a reality. I have been socialized “trans” and I know I’m not alone.
If trans dudes and butch, “masculine” and otherwise unconventional females are going to coexist we need to talk about this shit. If trans people are serious about supporting all people who get fucked over by gender then this issue needs to be addressed. The trans community needs to acknowledge that social forces like sexism can lead people to transition and that for some people being trans is a phase, perhaps a harmful one. I’m tired of seeing any mention of social pressures to transition dismissed as transphobic. Not all trans people are guilty of this. I’ve met a few trans folks who straight up said that they’re not sure if they’d have transitioned if society was different. Recently too, I looked up some old discussions I first read years ago on an FtM online community about whether transitioning was becoming a trend, whether it was cooler to be a FtM than a butch female, and concern that many people were rushing into transition or transitioning for the wrong reasons. I recall reading similar conversations on other sites as well. Today though, it seems that, in some communities at least, these conversations have become less acceptable and un-PC.
Silence about these issues in the trans community is not the only problem though or even the main one. It’s this whole genderfucked culture and the people who buy into it, the vast majority of whom are not trans. Most of the people who assumed I was trans were not trans themselves, many had not knowingly met a trans person before. Many non-trans folks who thought I was trans had very narrow ideas of what being trans was and only supported those trans identities that fell in line with their own assumptions of gender. When I was a teenager, people would tell me how they though my ex and his boyfriend, who was also FtM, weren’t really trans because they were both too feminine and “unmanly”. These people, who were mostly gay or bi, couldn’t understand trans fags at all. They told me their doubts because to them I was a “real” trans guy who could substantiate their judgments. At the time though, I was far from sure that I was actually trans. These folks assumed I was “really trans” because I was “masculine” and easily passed but questioned these two trans dudes because they didn’t conform to their ideas of what men were. This “trans” socialization then is often not so much about promoting any and all trans identities as using transsexuality to reinforce already established standards of gender. The core problem is that we’re living in a patriarchy and the ultimate task is to challenge it and the sex/gender order than sustains it. Quite a daunting task indeed and one I’m still figuring out how to practically advance.
In the meantime, there needs to be more support and resources for females who don’t fit gender norms. More specifically, there need to be spaces created for women who’ve denied their femaleness, transitioned due to internalized misogyny, called themselves trans, and/or lived as men before they found a way to accept themselves as women/females. There seem to be quite a lot of us out there but we’re nowhere near as organized as other communities. There isn’t really a community of us yet but I feel the need to help create one.
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b) some still retain penises and us Lesbians should just 'get over it' a la 'The Cotton Ceiling' debate. We are FEMALE HOMOSEXUALS, as such, our love and lust is reserved for female bodies, minds, spirits....but especially Female bodies.
No amount of external appearance can change that, or the potential fear an MTF might still retain a penis, and many still retain assumptions of their former male privilege, thinking we will give in to them if they are forceful enough.
Here is an article that addresses the difference between the Gay/Lesbian movement and Lesbians and Gays vs Trans interests. We are different communities. YOu just don't 'get over' the biological sex you come from...it is a lie.
http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/there-is-no-t-in-lesbian/
I have heard gay men complain to me in the same manner, as many, many of us Lesbians feel completely coopted by the trans movement, and both MTF's and FTM's who INSIST in being in all our women's and Lesbian spaces, while also having some of their own.Now the gay men are understanding somewhat what us Lesbians have had to deal with MTF cooptation all these years, when FTM's, most who do not fully transition either, are now crashing the gay male community. An FTM with a 'bonus hole' who engages in sex with a male, who enters that hole with his penis, is in effect indulging in HETEROSEXUAL sex, as that FTM can then be impregnated. MTF's and FTM's have garnered the sympathy of the bisexual community and both have stormed the barn on those of us who are exclusively homosexual, pressuring us to basically have a large pansexual community to accomodate ALL of them.
Our issues are different and our needs are different. Sometimes gay men want to be with other bio gay males sexually or socially. And often many of us Dykes want to be with bio women, Lesbian or otherwise, we share a girlhood in common, similar outlooks, puberty, fear of impregnation, and many, many other things that no MTF will ever understand. And FTM's should take responsibility and leave instead of undermine our communities to accomodate their new found 'male' status.
And it saddens MANY of us Dyke Butches to see more and more young women shamed of their female bodies, pressured by their peers, to identify as male, and go down the whole 'male identifying, hormone, surgery' route, as our strong Lesbian communities and spaces and businesses and bookstores have declined much of it due to trans infiltration and cooptation, the trans community has risen AT OUR EXPENSE and on the backs of our young Butches, convincing them for their freedom, if ONLY they identified as male, they truly could be free, and must be 'born in the wrong body', instead of a society that still DOES NOT accept Butch Dyke Women and effeminate Gay Men!
-MasterAmazon